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Ellie-Jean and Zach on WhatsApp 8/30/26, 1:36:15 AM

Ellie-Jean and Zach on WhatsApp 8/30/26, 1:36:15 AM
8/30/26, 1:36:15 AM
If you truly worked at these places clearly the places didn’t have any impact whatsoever on ur perspective of addiction ‎
See that’s rude
I spent five years working in rehabs
And five years sober before that
You seem to put down the severity of addiction
I don’t
I’m saying you don’t understand how serious it is
From your POV
If you worked at these places you’d know when someone is doing relapse preventative maintenance
Right, but that doesn’t mean lash out at people who care about you
If I didn’t care, I would just bail
I’m here
Such an insane thing to say such an ignorant statement such disrespect towards me.
Listen to me right now. For days now… you have been questioning, passive aggressively making nasty comments, accusations that I’m avoiding or somethings changed.
Listen. Listen to this. I’m about to drive to my EMDR appointment at **********. Listen to this zac actually understand what I am saying. For days this has gone on.
I receive a message from you accusing me of “turning on you” and how it’s so clear all this stuff.
Instead of ignoring such blantent disrespect and getting in the car to treatment, I put the effort in to try to get you to understand.
After missing the appointment and after multiple heavy back and forths— you have the fucking nerve to say
“Right, but that doesn’t mean lash out at people who care about you”
Are you well? If you care about me the way you say you do you would not wind me up for the past five days. I don’t even know how long it’s been. You would respect my boundaries. You wouldn’t push this narrative that I am shutting you out and I’ve turned on you after all of these accusations, I miss my appointment and you have the nerve to tell meI shouldn’t lash out at you. Do you see how insane this is?
You keep stating over and over. I’m here. I’ve been here just because you are interacting with me. We are talking. Does not mean you are supporting me.
I’m not pushing any narrative.. we’re in it right now, the ins and outs of life
Ok, I just haven’t been through this side of you yet
I’m physically shaking. I can not talk any longer. Exactly. Exactly. That is my point. Yes we have been talking intensely for a month but there are multiple sides of me that you haven’t seen you don’t know that is how you don’t know you love me yet. It would be such an insane thing to say. You love someone when you don’t know them I am telling youI cannot keep having this conversation and I don’t want to be accused of not liking you of shutting you out of turning on you I can’t do it. This has been two hours now. We’ve been going back-and-forth. I’ve missed my appointment. I need to get into the shower. I need to do meditation. I need to ground myself. I need for my Cortizone to drop.
8/30/26, 2:14:19 AM
There is a lot of love and a lot of care on both ends on both sides and that is like vehemently clear here, I (usually) love myself and lately that’s been slipping. For me to prioritise you over such an important therapy on my end that should speak volumes about how I feel about you. I am prioritising you over me. My mental health. So moving forward I really really really hope this conversation has made things a bit clearer. And I hope the accusations that I’ve turned on you I’m clearly angry at you. We have to talk about some unresolved issue I have towards you, cease. I really hope you can see where I’m coming from. It’s not like this process with the doctors goes on for months and months but there is a scale involved. It might be an Australian thing however it does take at least a fortnight. The first week is super super critical because often One can resolve the issue and you will not need to follow up with the second week right for me I’m in the very very early stages of the first week and I’m feeling frustrated that your kind of demanded attention and calls and passive aggressive comments especially I’m hearing daily now that not just your bookkeeper that you’re close friends think this about me and they attribute my character to a girl that ripped you off for $90,000. I have never once associated who you are intrinsically who you areand stooped so low and whilst I’m doing this for my mental health I’m receiving messages like this off of someone who is claiming they are supporting me and moving forward. I really hope you see clearly the big picture. ‎
Ok, shut up
If you still love me I still love you
I’m not demanding anything
These comments are not funny
Do not tell me to shut up.
You like me jokes, usually
*my
Sometimes hearing a voice does matter
We’re just missing each other’s tones
After pestering me for days reaching out through text, WhatsApp, TikTok, etc you are now doing such a classic move of “oh hush you’re overreacting” are you serious?
Pestering you?
You told me you wanted me to be more possessive
Yes. I am to cease communications of tech.
Ok
Oh you’re possessive that’s fckn clear alright
Not really.. but you basically stopped reaching out
And manipulative
Oh, please
I’m very direct
8/30/26, 2:32:42 AM
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I don’t need to argue
So you thought it was appropriate to passive-aggressively send multiple texts, TikToks, and WhatsApp msgs laughing about how your close friends think I'm like the girl who 'stole' — your words, though you told me you paid for her to send you solo videos — $90k from you? While I was actively communicating about my doctors and therapy?
You're accusing me of being like her, but you're doing it in a passive-aggressive way so there's no real validity behind you actually saying it outright. That's exactly the opposite of being direct. Every time you passive-aggressively bring her up, you're doing three things:
1. Testing my loyalty — seeing if I'll defend myself against an accusation I never earned.
2. Shifting blame — your choice to send her $90k was yours. That has nothing to do with me.
3.
3. Creating guilt — so I feel I owe you extra proof, extra patience, emotional labor while I'm already in active treatment.
I’m sorry if that upset you
I don’t think you’re like that
Can you read back to me what I just wrote because I don’t even think you read it zac
My friends were making comments which i could have kept to myself
Of course I did
That. Right there
That comment.
We should be talking this out
I don’t need to compare you to anyone
My friends were making comments… have your friends met me have your friends done extensive Google research on who I am?
No, I didn’t tell them too much
Just that you’re from Straya
And yet you shift accountability and responsibility by blaming them
What
I told them I adore you and that you live in Australia
That’s about it
My friends were making comments… the only information your friends have about me is what you have told them
Right
And then you’ve got the nerve to turn around victimise yourself like I really should’ve kept the nasty horrible things they said about you to myself
What?
The only thing your friends have got to go off about who I am as a person is what you have said about me to them
I said you’re beautiful and that I’m into you and you live in Australia
So it’s nothing about what your friends said and what you should or shouldn’t have kept from me. It’s clearly what you are telling your friends about me that is creating them to say something horribly nasty and negative about me.
Okay, okay let’s believe this lie for a second
It has nothing to do with you
I’m not a liar
If you said I am beautiful and that you’re into me and that I live in Australia what kind of friends do you have If they’re response to That is to say she sounds like the girl that stole $90,000 off of you?
I think it’s bc you live in another country
Can’t wait to hear what you say about this
Of course
But I don’t think of you like that
Let’s blame it on Australia
You’re sooo dramatic 🤣
You’re not direct your passive aggressive and you’ve been passive aggressively saying this comparison for ages you know when I say so dramatic yet you literally cry. Vomit can’t handle if I don’t reach out to you. Call message off every single platform and make it so deep that we are now having a three hour long conversation, not even conversation just argument.
You are the single most dramatic person I’ve ever met. You have gone to Court. You have gone to federal court. You have a license plate that says judging you said that you look up to people like Perez Hilton and Michael Rapaport. You have the nerve to call me dramatic.
Absolutely hilarious
Thanks, I try
That’s so not true
You’re not funny bro, it’s giving millennial fedora m’lady vibes
What does that even mean?
I own no hats
I’m not bald or weird
Well, yeah, you obviously wouldn’t know what that is. I forget how old you are. I don’t understand how you can even be a millennial.
No, you’re not bald
Wow
You used to like the age gap
SoOooooooo dramatic
Yeah
But whatever
It’s not like I’m gonna flip my shit
You really did kind of turn on me
It’s fucking funny watching you try to toe the line of “this doesn’t bother me I don’t care it’s whatever” … “why aren’t you responding??? You’ve TURNED on me?! “ “I saw you’ve been active on instagram & tiktok”
Pick a lane
You tried so hard to win me over
And I’m into it.. but it’s not my style to rage like this
What are you fucking on aboutttttt
I said TikTok
I don’t care TikTok whatever
I haven’t said that you’ve raged, but you’re absolutely not understanding my treatment showing any support and you have been making passive aggressive comments comparing me to a horrible person who I’ve never met
You know exactly what I’m talking about
Ok, well I don’t think of you like that
Well then, if you don’t think like that explain to me why you associate with people who think like that about me that I have not met
Brandan and Ximena are lovely people
I told them they have to meet you
They’ve both lived all over the world
Have you got five friends? So I got those five people I saw in the video and I’ve also got the bookkeeper and you said your brother mentioned something as well.
My dear friends down here
It’s stacking up
I have over 2,000 in the outer circle
I have heard you talk more shit on Brandon than ever also if you are drinking or intoxicated I don’t wanna have this conversation
I’m not
Simply because I am in active recovery and it won’t be productive
Yeah, I get it
Alright, so all these people that you hang out with have come to this conclusion, including your bookkeeper that I am like this girl
How would you like me to respond?
They were speaking their minds
You don’t have to
And the data and evidence they have is?
We spend a lot of time together
Conjecture
So. By you—
They’re flawed humans
Tell them I said I do not care about who they are. Tell them, they can continue living their boring little lives drinking themselves into an early grave to run from their emotions and numb their experience to life, I don’t have to prove a single thing about my character to these clearly more than averagely flawed people because I know exactly who I am, I needn’t drugs nor alcohol to escape. That is the kindest way I can respond to all these people making accusations & assumptions about my character.
You take pills constantly, don’t be like that
No one is perfect
Least of all me
Take pills constantly
What the ever living fuck does that mean?
I’m ready to bounce
There’s no need to slam Brandan
For good
Why are you like this?
I ONLY HAVE DATA YOU HAVE PROVIDED ABOUT HIM
I HAVE NOT MET BRANDON.
I AM GOING OFF OF WHAT YOU HAVE TOLD ME
Ok, be sure to use all caps
Why am I like this??????????
YeH
We’re all friends for like 15 years
I couldn’t imagine being 45 & so out of touch. I’m in active addiction treatment.
And I like having friends
I am receiving nasty comments from you daily
I’m not really out of touch ‎
I have provided doctors names therapy
You are weaponising the intimate detail details. I trusted to tell you and throwing it back in my face.
We’re just talking
I say they are gonna drink themselves into an early grave something that is explicitly known about drinking alcohol in general
No one else is here
You tell me not to be mean about Brandon 🍫🍬🍭
Yeah, he’s kinda dumb
And not mean
Well, birds of a feather
Do you see yourself?
Trying to provoke me
I see myself
Now I’m dumb?
No, you’ve wanted communication for days where communicating I mean active addiction treatment
I’ve had assumptions and accusations thrown my way four days in fact for the entire month
What else you got?
What
There’s no need for this
I’m hearing all of these people from you. Have said I am like this girl Brianna.
There’s no need for what?
It’s like you want me to get mad at you
Are you upset with yourself?
You can’t passive aggressively say hey my bookkeeper my brother my five close dearest friends think this is you and then expect me not to want to say something
You said that earlier
I’m upset. I missed therapy yeah.
Just Brandan and Ximena
I’m sorry
I guess say whatever you want
But don’t just throw hate on these people
They’re interesting
I value my friends
I wanna hop in the shower. I want to be understood. I want people to stop having such a horrible view of me and these are people I haven’t met.
I throw hate on these people
The only evidence and data that I have about these people is what they have said about me unprompted
No one said that about you directly.. they’re looking out for me
You’re sitting there having a few drinks with them and they say that girl her character and who she is is just like that other girl
All I said was, she’s not like that
Nope
So you said she’s beautiful. I’m into her. She lives in Australia and their response was be careful she does not take $90,000 from you.
It was tacos
Pretty much
Yeah, right.
I think you just wanted to fight tn
It’s really not necessary
This is this is this is absolutely insane
I’m sorry if I didn’t give you time for therapy
I am not someone who fights. I am the person people call to resolve a fight.
I like having you around
Oh, ok sheriff 🤠
I had to defend myself against several accusations. You continue to hurt my way that are inaccurate to who I am.
Yeah, yeah
I didn’t tell them shit
This conversation started by you saying you have turned on me
I go into extreme depths to show you exactly what is going on
That was the vibe
I even miss therapy
Yes, you did
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